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  1. About a year ago nVidia announced the Clara project which is basically segmentation with AI help. The first release with this functionality is now available for 3D Slicer. Look here -> https://discourse.slicer.org/t/ai-assisted-segmentation-extension/9536 IMHO this is a very big step and even in this early state it looks very promising.
  2. First of all, a lot of people in the "professional world" are using Ultimakers. And the Palette 2 is still not working with 2.85 filaments (and probably never will?) The last few months I came across a new scenario for multi material printing. It is mixing PLA with PETG for supports. PLA and PETG don't bond to each other. So you can print your part with PLA and supports with PETG (or vice versa) and set the contact z distance to 0(!). It works very well. Supports are coming off easy and the interface layers look as good as if you were using soluble supports. Since you have to keep soluble filament in dry conditions it is much easier (and cheaper) to use PETG instead. Setting up the Palette is very easy. Mosaic has some videos one can watch like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqbMw_M07GM (and the two follow up ones). As for my experience. The combination Prusa MK3 + Palette 2 is probably one of the most used one in the community and works very reliable (of course there is no 100% guarantee but lets say 98,5% of the time 😉) . And I always use and recommend Prusas. Also I would recommend using this post processing tool for PrusaSlicer 2.0: https://github.com/tomvandeneede/p2pp for an Prusa+Palette combination. I would also still strongly recommend the already mentioned DIY canvas hub guide. There is already an Octoprint beta version out for the new Raspberry 4 so chances are the guide might work with the new Raspberry 4. But I haven't tested it.
  3. You could use your Prusa printer with the palette 2. Their software has improved a lot the last few months and it should be a plug and play experience now.
  4. If you want FDM printing with many colors you should consider the da Vinci Color from XYZ printing (https://www.xyzprinting.com/de-DE/product/da-vinci-color). The print quality is OK for an FDM printer. They are also not very reliable (compared to something like a Prusa MK3). But you can print with many colors and they lowered the prizes a bit.
  5. Can you upload the DICOMs so that we can test them?
  6. Can you please be a bit more specific? What do you mean by "scans"?
  7. Flaviu


    Can you upload the data and post the link here?
  8. Prusa released the "S" versions of the MK3 and MMU2. The new versions should be easier to install. If you have problems nevertheless I might have some tips that could help you or of course there is always the Prusa forum. Btw. for all the Ultimaker users here. I heard that a Palette 2 version for the Ultimaker will be released in the near future.
  9. Dear all, I'd like to add something to my original post. I advised to buy the canvas hub. Don't do it! It's just a Raspberry Pi Zero W with Octoprint on it. Instad you should buy a Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (or newer) and install Octoprint yourself on it. Setup guide at: Canvas Octoprint Guide. The whole system will work with less lags because the Zero W is a lot slower than the 3B+ and you will save some money Regarding Printing time. When you have the possibility to purge into infill (available with Prusa system and in the near future with the Palette 2) the purge block will shrink if you print bigger parts (more infill). The lumbar spine I've printed is cut through the middle and I've printed both parts at once: No supports 30% infill 3 perimeters 0.15 layer hight (0.4 nozzle) Total print time 44 hours on my Prusa MMU2. (around 270 color changes) (Palette 2 should be about the same time.) Total print time as a single color print would be 38 hours. Soluble supports. I print all my (interface) supports with Verbatim BVOH. It works great with PLA but ... Maximum printing speed is around 20 mm/s (so way slower than PLA) You have to purge a lot (at least 120 mm^3 on every change which is about double the amount for a normal color change and it should be even more with the Palette 2) You have to use a container with low humidity and sometimes dry it. Palette 2 with dual extruder. It doesn't work atm. Since it is a very closed system it should be extremely difficult if not impossible for some one from the community to add this feature. If the company behind the product is working on this I don't know.
  10. As a general rule of thumb: Materials who like to string are not easy to print with the mmu2. ABS does not like to string so it should work well. PETG for example strings a lot therefore it is not easy to be used with the mmu2. If you want to print with PVA you probably will have a lot of problems. BVOH is easier to print with but has to be stored in very dry conditions.
  11. I'd like to warn everyone from using Prusas SLA or other cheap (Chinese) SLA printers instead of a Form 2. The Form 2 has a cartridge system for the resin. The cheaper SLA printers don't have that so you are a lot more "in contact" with the resin. This makes the whole process a lot more difficult/complex and might even be harmful to your health. 😐
  12. The RSNA/SIG released a paper about guidelines for medical 3d printing. Download link e.g.: Radiological Society of North America (RSNA) 3D printing Special Interest Group (SIG): guidelines for medical 3D printing and appropriateness for clinical scenarios On page 7 there is an interesting table with ratings from 1-9 about the usefulness of 3d printing on specific medical scenarios: 1-3: rarely appropriate 4-6: maybe appropriate 7-9: usually appropriate
  13. After several weeks of multi color/material printing with my FDM printer Prusa MK3 (I have other Printers too) with the Multi Material Unit 2 (MMU2) I'd like to share my results with you. Another interesting product regarding multimaterial is the Mosaic Palette 2. I don't own that unit at the moment but I know people who are using the system and I talked a lot with them about the unit so I will share their experience also with you. First of all, some general info. The Prusa MK3 costs as a build kit 769€ and fully assembled 999€. The MMU2 unit comes only as a kit and costs 300€. It can print with up to 5 materials. It can only be used with a Prusa printer out of the box. (Firmware is open source so in theory you could tinker it to work with other printers). Prusa has also their own (open source) slicer called Slic3er PE. The Palette 2 comes in two versions, the standard and the pro. Both versions can print with up to 4 materials. I highly recommend the pro version because it has a better warranty and comes with better quality parts. I also recommend the canvas hub option because it makes it easier to connect the system to your printer. That would result in a total prise of 878 USD. The Palette 3 can only be used with 3D printers that use 1.75 mm filament. So it can't be used with something like an Ultimaker. One more thing about filament. Prusa has now their own filament called Prusament. It is produced with a tolerance of +/- 0.02 mm in diameter. And you get a QR code with your spool to check the measuring yourself. Every spool is measured 100%. One (and only) advantage of the 2.85 mm filament that Ultimaker is using is that it is easier to produce precisely. If you are using 1.75 mm with +/- 0.02 mm that advantage is gone. First some thoughts on the MMU2. The MK3 produces very nice quality prints especially with high quality PLA like Prusament or PLA/PHA. That is mainly thanks to the Bondtech direct drive extruder. One other nice feature is the removable (magnetic flex steel) PEI bed. I guarantee you that if you are using this feature one time you will never never ever want a printer without it again. The basic principle of the system is that it adds a bowden system with a selector to the direct drive system. So the direct drive system pulls the filament up until the bowden system takes over. Than it switches the filament and the bowden system pushes the filament back to the direct drive gears. And so on ... As already mentioned it comes as a kit. And that is a BIG problem. Assembling it is not easy because you have to make sure that the filament path is as smoothly as possible. When you pull filament out from the hotend you can have tips with large strings or increased diameters. That will cause problems. To form the tips Slic3r PE has something called "ramming sequence". It tries to "form" the tips nicely like with no strings. This works good with Prusas own filament Prusament. It works also usually quite good with other filaments especially high quality ones like PLA/PHA. But there is no guarantee it works with the filament you are using so you might have to try different settings. So you have with the MMU2 basically two main problems. Assembling it so that everything runs perfectly smooth. And getting the ramming sequence settings right. A LOT of people are having problems with that. I had also try a lot out and it was frustrating at the beginning. I have now a working unit and prints are imho amazing. Now some words about the Palette 2 (pro). The principle of the machine is that it cuts the filaments and than splices them (melting) together. So you have one filament going out of the system with the right color combination for your model. It comes basically fully assembled. Installing the system to your printer takes maybe half an hour or so depending on your setup. So a LOT easier that the MMU2. One big problem right now is that their own slicer is very buggy and produces (especially on complex models) mediocre print quality. Sometimes it does even the color changes on the wrong location of the part. Combining your own more sophisticated slicer like Slic3er, Simplify3D or Cura with their system works also not reliably at the moment. Some general thoughts. Both systems produce purge towers. Every time when you change the color you have to get rid of the plastic from the old color in the hot end. How much you have to purge onto the tower is color dependent. E. g. switching from black to white or from PLA to BVOH as extreme scenarios. BUT as I mentioned the Palette splices the filaments together. That produces a color gradient in the filament of a few mm. That has to be purged additionally. So the purge amount of the Palette will always be bigger than the one of the MMU2. Slic3er PE has the option to "purge into infill" so it purges also into the objects infill. That option will come to the Palette 2 in the near future. I print a lot with BVOH and I know that it can work with the Palette too. But in both cases it adds complexity. Slic3er PE has the option for printing only support interface layers or completely supports with soluble material. I will start testing flexible materials in the near future. Customer support is pretty good with both companies. The forums are used very actively and you have also a very helpful chat support at Prusa. MMU2 Print: MMU2 Print: Kidney with tumor and magnet inserts MMU2 Fun prints: Palette slicing problems: Palette color gradient:
  14. In the next few months we will see some multi material solutions coming to FDM printing. For example, the Multi Material Unit 2 from Prusa or the Palette 2 from Mosaic. For patient specific anatomical models that could be huge. (Colors + soluble supports) For guides there are a lot of FDM printing materials which can be sterilized (e.g. heat resistant to > 125°C) but you really have to know how to set up the printer so that the part doesn’t have for example small holes. Or you can use a SLS printer like the Form 2 with resin that can be sterilized (formlabs sells that resin too) and you won’t have problems with small holes/defects on the parts. Sadly most SLA slicers are missing a lot of features like variable z-high. As far as I know SLS is the only technology right know that is producing high quality parts made out of PEEK. FDM PEEK printers are getting better but they are not a solution for endoprosthesis at the moment.
  15. The "prusa mk3" uses a direct drive system with bondtech gears. Prusa MK3 It is a printer which can be used printing 24/7 but the build volume of 25x21x21 cm might not be enough for everyone. I'm going to receive their multi material update in about 3 weeks. It will then print with up to 5 materials. So for example with 4 colors + soluble supports (but uses still the same great direct drive system). I will test it with some of the data I have segmented from ct images which contains multiple objects. For example a kidney with a tumor or a heart segmentation. If you want I will post the results in this forum.
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